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Don't buy a Seiko Monster, you won't look at a tool dive watch the same again.

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..it will ruin your enjoyment/hunting of dive watches.

The Seiko Monster sets the bar unbelievably high for a tool dive watch.

I was looking at fancy dive watches for Christmas and mentally comparing them to my Monster. I have since come to the conclusion, dive watches are RUINED for me.

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Style - All it's own, not just another submariner clone. In fact it has been hard to find anything remotely similiar to it. My Black Monster gets more comments then any other watch I own. RUINED.

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Case - Drilled lugs at standard 20mm, huge crown/bezel guards, has a weight that makes you confident you won't break it. A true ISO diver rated to 200m. RUINED.

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Crown - 4 O'clock location doesn't dig into wrist, smooth screw down and great grip. RUINED.

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Bezel - Huge, grippy, aligns with the case, 12 dot glows with the same lume as the dial. It sounds smooth and moves with just enough force. RUINED.

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Crystal - Domed, and protected by the bezel...how very useful. RUINED.

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Bracelet - My watchmaker said "I have never seen pin and collar on a watch at this price", weighs half a ton has brushed/polish look that is all Monster....and you get a REAL diver's extension. The clasp has micro adjustment...what a novel idea. RUINED.

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Dial - simple, diver style, no paragraphs of writing about co-axial this chronometer that. It just says Seiko, Automatic, and Diver's 200m RUINED.

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Hands - when they line up at 12 O'Clock they look like a spaceship. RUINED.

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Lume - Seiko must be using something powerful, other companies should just buy whatever Seiko is using and use it. It might even cause you to cover your watch whilst sleeping. RUINED.

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Movement - bulletproof and common, you don't see many posts about Monsters seizing up *cough* Co-axial *cough*. Keeps decent time, well within excepted specs for a mechanical watch. I get the day and date with a black background and white numerals! RUINED.

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So overall, don't buy a Seiko Monster. It will ruin dive watches for you going forward, even the pircey ones. Wear a Monster, and go look at a Rolex/Omega divers and tell me which one feels more like a tool.

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I had walked into my local Omega dealer thinking I would fall in love with the PO or Seamaster, but that darn nagging Monster was in my head. I was even doing a BM v.s. Submariner comparision...how scary is that?

I am still trying to find a fancy dive watch, but the fact I use "fancy" and "dive" together is a complete WIS syndrome.

I like some other offerings, Doxa, MKII, Marathon, etc. The problem is that I can't hold them and try them on, basically have to accept them. If I am going to spend 2k+ on a watch, I don't want to accept that a $200 diver is in almost every way a better watch. I did just buy an Orient Mako, but at > $100 I will make some concessions.

 

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I agree with most of what you say. But my Citizen NY2300 gets more wrist time, keeps better time and glows all night long for ($100).

If you can find an Oris dealer take a look at the Oris TT1 300 meter. It's a great dive watch in every way. I won't give up mine over my monster.

My last trip to the local Big Shiny Watch Store was a disappointment at well. The Omega and Rolex were all to fancy looking to be worn in the water. A real let down.

 

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Same thing happens to me regarding an Omega Planet Ocean. I like the watch, sure, but then I look at my Black Monster and I actually consider mine superior. Day/date simple, reliable movement that's readily available, lack of babying, relative lack of servicing.

However my toughest diver is an Omega, quartz Seamaster. But that's quartz and it's not a fair comparison.

 

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I couldn't agree more...I just got a BM a few days ago and I am shocked at what Seiko delivers for $150. It has definitely dampened my interest in a few pricier dive watches that I was considering. The Monster's fit and finish are simply amazing...it makes me embarassed that I've paid far more for far less watch. Frankly I don't know how Seiko does it!

 

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I think my Eco-Zilla is equal to or better in all of the above mentioned departments.

PLUS ++;

It's rated to 300m and is suitable for mixed gas diving. It has a WAY cooler case back.

It has quartz accuracy. It is MORE durable (6mm thick crystal!!). It has grab and go capabilty even if left for weeks on the nightstand (face up, face down, udside down or backwards). It garners way more attention than most watches. And it can be had for about the same money (

relatively speaking). Validity of above thread..RUINED!

 

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