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[TjHGHgds]

Continuing the theme of rare movements from the past (see Part 1), posting another specimen from collection..
Today's post with some not often seen movement from 1810's that was noticed by one colleague.

It will not be just a presentation, but some quiz - What do you think about this movement?

Cylinder escapement, dial size 47 mm, happily runs after cleaning. Under dial view shows very simple design.
It is key-wound via central arbor square. Non-jewelled cylinder escapement with brass escapement wheel, about 1810-20's.

And a signature closeup. Note very special minute marking layout.

What do you think? It's easy =)

[Unidy]

watches were called " montre à souscription" low grade movement central barrel and a single hand manufactured in series for economy. the customer who ordered paid little at a time and received it when paid concluded regards enrico

[todd]

for clarity I can not say that is a true Breguet. because many apprentices have made watches like this regards enrico

[hendl]

IT`s a very interesting piece.The way the indices are arranged around the chapter makes me think the watch only had one hand.Hmmmm....the hole at 12 is for viewing the escape wheel right? (sorry,already mentioned by enrico,yes one hand........whoopsie.

[Ballard]

As Enrico says, it is not a genuine Breguet, but a fake in my opinion. adam

[Ｈono05]

The fit and finish are definitely not there to be a Breguet. I'm far from a Breguet scholar, but I would also expect to see ruby cylinder. In terms of bridge layout, it's definitely a lot more convincing than most of the "Breguets" that we see, as at least they went to some effort to duplicate his styling.

[Buee1]

Very good, friends, thanks for your comments! Although very rare and interesting, that movement doesn't have important Breguet's features: - overhanging ruby cylinder escapement (100% must-have for Souscriptions) - pare-chute shock protection - bimetallic temperature compensation curb - signature and number - secret signature on dial Here is a photo with original approved Breguet from my collection: That was non-original "Breguet", but I hold it in my collection because it shows really interesting page of A.-L.Breguet history. Moreover, "Souscription" imitations are even more scarce than original "Souscriptions"! It's not easy to find the same in collections

[Revano]

Hi, sorry you lost me. The original watch you posted, really it has: 1) Secret signature on dial? 2) Surely NO Parachute shock protection! I think not. Really it does not resemble a Breguet as you describe at all. Adam

[lovecheese]

On today's photo: left Breguet No3465 (approved by museum) has both parechute and secret signature. Right one (imitation) - doesn't have both features.

[bombah]

I'd really like to see the dial on the original (museum-approved) piece...